tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35889923.post5727482217355158086..comments2023-07-11T22:20:47.271+12:00Comments on Alex in Wonder Land: On dying AmazonsAlexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01762607572746894100noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35889923.post-33336300977774143782010-06-05T07:34:20.122+12:002010-06-05T07:34:20.122+12:00These articles are fantastic; the information you ...These articles are fantastic; the information you show us is interesting for everybody and is really good written. It’s just great!! Do you want to know something more? Read it...: Great investment opportunity in Costa RicaCosta Rica Cheap Land for Salehttp://www.lots-in-costarica.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35889923.post-90608676686278862072007-05-09T10:10:00.000+12:002007-05-09T10:10:00.000+12:00hey Wildangel,i still stand by the detachment, but...hey Wildangel,<BR/>i still stand by the detachment, but not in the way it might seem. you can never really disassociate the american flag from its history, it would be a fools errand, and one without merit. but for the amazons, and wonder woman, the pattern has become synonymous with heroism particularly one of their greatest; the outsider Diana Trevor. It is a symbol for women who go far to do great things. How that then impacts and perhaps comes into confict with the American ideals when they attack is something i hope is played out.<BR/><BR/>while i do remember the pre-crisis amazons (who i have sporadic familiarity with) i have greater appreciation for the amazons of the Perez era. why they have been reduced in the way they have could realistically have something to do with the merging of their cultures with the Bana Mighdall, and also their experiences as the 'other' within virtually all of their encounters. As for Hippolyta, i guess the cats out of the bag there. what a shame.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01762607572746894100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35889923.post-50703176947382304252007-04-19T12:20:00.000+12:002007-04-19T12:20:00.000+12:00I do admire your analysis of the Amazons treated l...I do admire your analysis of the Amazons treated like cannon fodder, which they have been for a very long time as it is always so "moving " to see women die (and furthermore women who do not even have the luck to be protected by men!!!... just jokin!).<BR/>What's pretty troubling me is to see them "attacking" wearing the american flag all over! When you say in a previous post that Perez "detached" the uniform from the US flag I don't agree as it got linked to Diana Trevor's outfit... <BR/>It seems to me quite alarming to have US paranoia infiltrating in comics and the Amazons appear to me no more than old continent barbarians with no grasp on progress, sterile and doomed.<BR/>May be you are too young to remember them pre-crisis, but they seemed much prouder and generous, with advanced technology and incredible garments. That eagle shown everywhere on them make me wonder why the authors and artists don't reach further into mythology and history to have a better grasp on this tribe of females who used to cut one breast in order to hold their archery...<BR/>anyway... any hint about the presence of Donna Troy, or Nubia, a return by Hippolyta?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35889923.post-72213907866454194192007-04-13T11:06:00.000+12:002007-04-13T11:06:00.000+12:00Robert,that would certainly seem to be the case. W...Robert,<BR/>that would certainly seem to be the case. What's concerning is that these tragedies are not by design, but rather a lack of consideration over the overarching implications of their treatment. It strikes an unsettling balance between purposefully thinking about and using women as emotional symbols, and forgetting to explore their actual suffering for what it implies. They are both thought about and ignored, at once. Not so much conspiracy, as unfortunate statement of fact.<BR/><BR/>alex xAlexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01762607572746894100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35889923.post-9231852171263509702007-04-11T07:03:00.000+12:002007-04-11T07:03:00.000+12:00Call me a conspiracy theorist if you will, but I t...Call me a conspiracy theorist if you will, but I think that the treatment of the Amazons has something to do with an overarching sexism and misogyny seemingly inherent in the male-dominated comic book industry.Son of Baldwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06703508519461897604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35889923.post-85473861372461346822007-03-10T12:26:00.000+13:002007-03-10T12:26:00.000+13:00hey ami,thank you for taking a look at the blog! I...hey ami,<BR/>thank you for taking a look at the blog! Its annoying, the measure of a good Wonder Woman writer for e often comes from whether or not he can avoid using the Amazons as WiR, or emotional sponges for Diana's experiences/suffering. Sometimes it can be confusing, for even the writers who do infuse the Amazons with personality (Perez, Jimenez and Rucka were all good for creating and maintaing specific Amazon characters and personalities) are often responsible for using shock tactics with their suffering. I'm not sure where Amazons Attack! will go with that either, but there's always the possibility that it will ban important move in making the Amazons recognisable in the DCU.<BR/><BR/>hey to you too my anonymous commenter, <BR/>I too dropped off the title with Byrne's change to the status quo, and ended up going back and buying and reading a lot of his run for completion's sake. I still don't think i managed to read his Hippolyta issues however...<BR/>I wonder if writers find it easy to massacre the Amazons because they haven't read their history and don't have that sense that it might be high time things went well for them, as you do or I do. And yet despite that, we both concede to the dramatic scope this idea of the Amazon Army has. Can you remember any Amazons from Perez' run, other than Phillipus, that have survived to today? Just a point of interest, I don't have my back issues here in NZ.<BR/><BR/>alex xAlexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01762607572746894100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35889923.post-42773021150188405662007-03-10T07:54:00.000+13:002007-03-10T07:54:00.000+13:00I've been a WW reader since the Perez run but drop...I've been a WW reader since the Perez run but dropped off just as Byrne replaced Diana with Hippolyte. And you're right, it IS disheartening to see the Amazons treated basically like cannon fodder. And it is strange how their numbers (I'm guessing initially in the ten thousands) never seem to diminish despite the horrible series of events you just enumerated! While "Amazons Attack" intrigues me, I have this sick feeling in my stomach that I'll be seeing more Amazon corpses soon. WHy do I feel for them? I dunno, I guess having read Perez' WW run, I figure they deserve some happiness after all the crap they've gone through. Then again, the idea of an entire ARMY of warrior women is quite powerful and tempting for any writer I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35889923.post-57488337882407452782007-03-07T08:57:00.000+13:002007-03-07T08:57:00.000+13:00Great article and analysis! :D I much enjoyed it,...Great article and analysis! :D I much enjoyed it, altho it was also sad to read :(<BR/><BR/>I think that the Amazons have been used as the Women in Refrigerators for Wonder Woman. :\ They're nameless characters we dun rly know much about, but care about b/c they're a) related to Diana b) women. :( And they come in great numbers that can be killed to make the readers go "OMG". :\<BR/><BR/>They're a plot device, not characters... :(<BR/><BR/>I hope that Amazons Attack changes this, but I'm not holding my breath :(Ami Angelwingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07263018434610100226noreply@blogger.com